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The Secret to Better Relationships Isn’t Big

Imagine Yourself Podcast Season 8 Episode 2

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Sometimes it’s not the big moments that shape our relationships most . . . it’s the little patterns we fall into without even realizing it.

In this episode, we focus on the small shifts that can quietly change a relationship over time: the assumptions we make, the way busyness pulls us apart, and why people can genuinely care about each other and still miss what the other person actually needs.

It’s an honest, real-life conversation about connection, communication, grace, and learning to love people a little better in the middle of everyday life. We lean into the importance of staying tuned in to God — because sometimes His quiet nudges are what lead us toward more patience, more understanding, and a softer response than the one we were about to give.

There’s humor, perspective, a few “ouch, that’s true” moments, and plenty of encouragement for anyone who wants healthier, deeper, more connected relationships without feeling like you need a complete life overhaul.

Listen now and maybe even share it with someone who’s been on your heart lately.

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 "Imagine Yourself" is hosted by Lanée Blaise and Sandy Kovach—two dynamic voices with a passion for inspiring and uplifting others. Lanée, a TV writer, producer, motivational speaker, and podcaster, brings powerful storytelling and insight. Sandy, a radio personality, voiceover artist, and podcaster, delivers warmth and wisdom with every conversation. Broadcasting from the Detroit Metro area, they welcome guests from around the world to share valuable perspectives on health, career growth, faith, and personal transformation. Tune in and imagine the possibilities for your life!


 Ever walk away from a conversation thinking, “That escalated fast”? Or wonder why some relationships start feeling distant even when nobody did anything huge? In this episode, " we talk about the small things that quietly strengthen (or slowly weaken) our connections with the people we love. It’s honest, relatable, faith-grounded, and full of those “oh wow… I do that” moments. 

Here's The Secret to Better Relationships Isn’t Big"

Lanée Blaise [00:00:00]:
Hello, everyone. This is Lanee here with Sandy at Imagine Yourself. And we have been so excited. I know that when someone's excited about something, they keep telling you about it over and over again. That's going to be us because we are just so delighted that we are in season eight. We've got new logos coming out, we've got new shows, new episodes, and we just really are embracing this whole new season of life, of love, of career, of shift, strength, of health, of faith. And sand and I were just thinking, like, the last episode that we had, we were talking about seasons of our life. We were talking about small changes that help make those seasons go a lot better.

Lanée Blaise [00:00:44]:
And we just wanted to expand upon it. The next few episodes that we have in the upcoming weeks are going to be little tangents. And so today's little tangent, when you're talking about, you know, know, new seasons of life or new ways of thinking, new ways of being, small changes. Today's is going to be on relationships. And that could be romantic relationships. That can be with your self, that can be with your loved ones, your friends, your kids, your parents, whoever it is. We are human beings. We're in relationships with one another.

Lanée Blaise [00:01:18]:
So we're going to cover all the different areas. How did you like the fact that we were going to talk about relationships this time and. And what you got up your sleeve?

Sandy Kovach [00:01:27]:
Okay, well, first, before anything, I have to say the little tangents. Okay. I was going to say we're in a series. I was trying to sound really official. We're doing series, darling. And it has to do with small things and different aspects of your life. But tangents. Okay, tangents.

Lanée Blaise [00:01:44]:
Because I guess some people hate going off on tangents, but I like it when you kind of have like a theme, but then you go on a little side tangent sometimes that's the most fun thing of all.

Sandy Kovach [00:01:54]:
Yeah. And so we are currently on a tangent about relationships. So we were talking about this book earlier, and it's an old book, but a lot of people know it or reference it. The Five Love Languages by. Not Gary Coleman. Because that's what we said first.

Lanée Blaise [00:02:10]:
I was like, it's Gary Coleman. He wrote that book. And she's like, you. Your brain has hooked up on different strokes from 1980.

Sandy Kovach [00:02:19]:
Yeah. So Gary. I was gonna say Gary Shandling. Okay. He's not it either. And no, no disrespect to the very respected author Gary Chapman, who's written the book and other books about love languages, but the five Love Languages, Words of Affirmation, Quality time, receiving gifts, acts of service, and physical touch. And it's whatever rings the person's bell in a relationship. Like I was saying, my husband is very much an acts of service person.

Sandy Kovach [00:02:50]:
That's what he appreciates. He will appreciate if I go above and beyond and do something around the house or, you know, for him or, you know, make sure he has something. And he constantly does acts of service for me. And maybe I don't appreciate them enough because my love language is probably quality time. And if he's off doing an active service for me and not spending time with me, I may. He might be like, thinking this is the best thing I could be doing for my relationship. And I could be like, dang, where the heck is he? In the garage again, Cleaning my car, detailing my car or something. So what about you?

Lanée Blaise [00:03:28]:
That's the thing about the love language is. So mine is. And this is interesting too, my husband, his love language is absolutely, positively acts of service as well. And that is not mine either. And so to your point, you know, you and I were kind of talking about this before the show. You and I were both saying, like, don't get me wrong, it's not that we don't enjoy and thank them for the things they do when they're, you know, going out and doing these things. And like, here you go. Like, I did this for you.

Lanée Blaise [00:03:58]:
But I have two. So my first one, which baffles my husband, it's just not his love language at all. He doesn't even understand how it could be. One is words of affirmation. Oh, you know, but remember, I'm a writer and I love words. And my mother was an English major and English teacher. And I just. Words mean something.

Lanée Blaise [00:04:20]:
And I know that it's kind of like, don't just tell me you love me, but show me you love me. But there's something about him telling me or writing it down or saying it out loud to me, just wonderful things that just gets me all pumped up. And he's kind of like, but it doesn't mean anything, like, unless you show it and prove it with these acts of service. It's just very interesting, you know, so

Sandy Kovach [00:04:43]:
round and round circles, round and round.

Lanée Blaise [00:04:45]:
Like, we're not always getting. And then that means, like, I kind of have to manage my expectations. And he probably has to also, because relationships are give and take. Relationships really, if they're going to be successful, require that you understand that the other person is going to be wired differently than you. They were raised differently. You came here to this Earth, God sent you here. Different. The experiences you've had, things that have hurt you or blessed you or lifted you or shoved you down are very different than the other person.

Lanée Blaise [00:05:15]:
And I really think that as we move into this season of kind of reflecting on ways that we can enhance our relationships, I do think that maybe even starting with the love languages, just really thinking about the fact that I understand that my husband has a different top one, or my mother or my sister or my daughter, whoever it is. Because these don't have to be romantic relationships. I don't. I mean, we'd have to ask Gary Chapman.

Sandy Kovach [00:05:47]:
Yeah.

Lanée Blaise [00:05:48]:
But in my opinion, it's. It's. You know, and I. Because I have a friend, and I have been friends since we were 13 years old, and her love language is gifts, and she gives me the most wonderful gifts, and I love it, but I'm not really good at buying gifts, so I always get her something, and she's like, oh, thank you.

Sandy Kovach [00:06:07]:
You know, oh, you got me some really cool gifts. So thank God.

Lanée Blaise [00:06:11]:
Okay, then.

Sandy Kovach [00:06:11]:
Not for everybody.

Lanée Blaise [00:06:12]:
Yeah, not for everybody, I guess. I don't know. Thank you for saying that, too, Sandy, because I was like, maybe I'm just bad at this. But.

Sandy Kovach [00:06:19]:
But it's.

Lanée Blaise [00:06:19]:
There's something about when we do these small changes where we really think about what they need. We think about what we need, and we think about, like, with gratitude. Like you said, if your husband goes and details your car, he's, like, so happy. We can make that small change to just be just as giddy as he is about it, too.

Sandy Kovach [00:06:42]:
So that's a big one. I think, overall, keeping in mind somebody else's, whether you call it a love language or their preferences or, like you said, how they were raised or. My husband and I, I have very different tastes in cooking. And often now we cook our own meals. Not all the time, but as the years go by, we've become more respectful of each other's tastes. So I would say if you can start out that way. But aside from that, there are little things that you can just kind of do to create that better connection. Because I will say, and this maybe is more so not your spouse, but maybe other people have outside, maybe more like friends or even some family members you don't see as often.

Sandy Kovach [00:07:22]:
I feel like as we get older and we're kind of basing this on our new seasons, going through midlife and beyond, you feel like going out and socializing a lot less. More. A lot less. More. Yeah.

Lanée Blaise [00:07:34]:
A lot less. No. And also, as we get Older. We start to like twist our sentences up a little bit more. Less too.

Sandy Kovach [00:07:43]:
And I was so emphatic about it too. A lot less.

Lanée Blaise [00:07:46]:
More. Um, but you know, you are. Everybody out there is laughing with us, but also saying that you are telling the truth. Because not only socializing a little less, but also earlier, because nobody I know wants to go out past 9pm for anything.

Sandy Kovach [00:08:03]:
That's right. That's right. And just be intentional. You don't have to make it a dinner, a lunch or coffee, even though you want to sometimes, you know, a FaceTime or a call, even just a text to say, I'm thinking about you, I'm praying about you. But if you can try to put these things on your schedule, I could probably name 10 people right now that we have both said, you know what, we gotta get together for coffee. And I want to so bad, but that other person and I. Neither one of us has like made the first move because we're probably like, oh my gosh, I'm so busy. But you know, be the one that makes the first move.

Sandy Kovach [00:08:40]:
Set a time and say, what's your best date between this and this? And make it intentional because otherwise you let some of these relationships go and they're so precious.

Lanée Blaise [00:08:49]:
You are correct. And every time I think that life is going to get less busy and easier and have all this downtime, something else comes up and kind of snatches that. And you're right. I had another friend. And she and I have also been friends since we were 13. Middle school was popular, but crazy enough I was direct messaging her through Instagram because I'd see her post, I'd like it and she'd see mine, or she'd see Imagine Yourself podcast post, she'd like it and. And then we'd send a little message that way. And then finally she was like, are we ever going to like chitchat on the phone? And I'm like, I hope so.

Lanée Blaise [00:09:27]:
I don't know.

Sandy Kovach [00:09:28]:
But.

Lanée Blaise [00:09:29]:
But what I did was I sent a little audio message through her phone. So felt like a voicemail message. But then also one morning I woke up and I promise you, God gave me the nudge. Because I took a peek at Instagram. It was only like 7:30 in the morning. She had just. It showed like two minutes ago she had liked my post. I picked up the phone right then and called her and I'm like, I know you're awake because I just saw you like my post.

Lanée Blaise [00:09:51]:
And we got to talk. And she's like, this is just spontaneous and lovely. And no pressure, but we got to catch up. And then she's like, well, I gotta start getting ready and get dressed and go to work. And I'm like, I know, I gotta get my button on also. But it was that little bit of connection, that quality time that is. That is your love language. But that little bit of touching base, that.

Lanée Blaise [00:10:15]:
That is so important. So please make sure you reach out friends, family, especially like our older folks. I got to give a shout out to my Uncle Jimmy. He just turned 85 this past weekend. We just celebrated him, the whole family. And he said it was the best birthday of his entire life because he felt loved, he felt seen. He got to just have different family members all around him. That's priceless to me.

Lanée Blaise [00:10:40]:
That's. That's, you know, relationships are priceless. We are meant to be in community with. With each other. Even if we're introverts, we are still meant to have that human connection with our. With our people.

Sandy Kovach [00:10:51]:
That's right. Yeah. God created us for connection. You're absolutely right. And it shows in many surveys that you see that relationships are what is highest ranking when it comes to people's happiness. You think, is it going to be money? Nope. Is it going to be having stuff? Nope.

Lanée Blaise [00:11:09]:
Yeah, like what? Yeah, what good. What good is all the money if you, I guess from a faith perspective, if you lose your soul, but also from a, I guess, secular perspective, if you have no one to share it with.

Sandy Kovach [00:11:20]:
Exactly.

Lanée Blaise [00:11:20]:
So, yeah, I think that was from like the movie Mahogany with Diana Ross and Billy Dee Williams back in the day. But yeah, like, what good is all this if you have no one to share it with? But yes.

Sandy Kovach [00:11:30]:
So, all right, so that was my little tip about being intentional. What about you? Whether it's relationship with your husband or friend or whoever, what are you going to throw out there?

Lanée Blaise [00:11:42]:
I am going to throw out one that again, because I'm a writer. I'm going to make it very visual. So pretend like you are riding the horse and your friend or spouse or whoever, this person you're in relation with, and they're also riding towards you, riding side by side, and you all are having a great time, just galloping along. And then I guess their horse hits some kind of pothole and they fall off their horse and they're down on the ground and you're looking at them down there. You're still on your horse. Fine. You see, they are on the stroke. They're struggling.

Lanée Blaise [00:12:19]:
That is the figurative way. But literally there are times when you and this other person you're in a relationship with are kind of going through life, you know, and you see them, they fall, you know, figuratively in their life. In fact, actually, the other one was literally. I'm sorry, Literally they fell in with the horse. This one is figurative, but. And you look down and I just feel like even if you're going through. Everybody's going through something in life, and even if things are pinching you up, you're still at least on your horse. Please give them grace.

Lanée Blaise [00:12:53]:
Please give them extra help. This works with my family members also. I know with my parents, I have so many siblings, but they were like, sometimes I might not be giving you attention Lynae, or I might not be giving you attention, Blake, because the other. Your other sisters or brother might. We can tell they need it more. Right? Then we're not doing, like, oh, everybody's fair. We give you exactly the same treatment, exactly the same time. If this sibling is struggling, I'm going to take my focus off of you, Lenae, and I'm going to switch over to them.

Lanée Blaise [00:13:25]:
And I just think. I don't know if that's done enough lately. It's grace. It's a spirit of grace. It's a posture of sacrifice that I think is so important for relationships of all kinds. And of course, we hope it's reciprocal. If I fall off my horse, please don't just look down on me and be like, why'd you fall off your horse?

Sandy Kovach [00:13:48]:
I might be laughing. Don't know how you felt.

Lanée Blaise [00:13:52]:
Only if you know I'm totally cool. Like, I. Like, I'm laughing, too. But it's like, there's so many times where we as humans do a blame game. We look at the person like, well, why'd you fall off your horse? Or, why'd you go that way? Or why didn't you stay on the path? That's not what they need to hear right then. So that's just my little grace.

Sandy Kovach [00:14:10]:
But.

Lanée Blaise [00:14:10]:
But no, I do. And I do have another friend from college. She's like, lenae, I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm built this way. If I see anybody fall down, I'm cracking up. So please don't ever get mad at me. If you fall down and I'm over there crying, laughing, I can't help it.

Sandy Kovach [00:14:25]:
I'm like, girl, she probably likes the Three Stooges and all that physical comedy. Right?

Lanée Blaise [00:14:30]:
Exactly. And she just cannot help it. So, again, managing my expectations, I know that if I ever fall down and she's laughing, I'm not even gonna get mad at her, I'm just gonna.

Sandy Kovach [00:14:41]:
That's good suggestion. And being sensitive to other people, even when you've got a lot on your plate or even when you are sad and upset, that's one of the best ways. It's a Mark Twain quote. The best way to cheer yourself up is to cheer someone else up. And God puts things, experiences in us to help other people. Let's just do a couple more here because I know we've got all these other episodes that we're going to be doing the small changes that you can make in new seasons of life, but actually these are things you can do anytime. All right, here's one of my favorites and I guess it's one of my favorites because I don't have a problem or I don't think I have a problem with it, but maybe I do. Maybe that's why I'm picking it.

Sandy Kovach [00:15:26]:
Assume the best before reacting. We have such a tendency to go right to somebody's intentions and it kind of ties in a little bit to what you were saying before. If somebody falls off their horse, well, you know, why were you sitting that way? We might question someone's life choice and then wherever they end up. But that's not for us to do.

Lanée Blaise [00:15:46]:
No, but and this one, to me, it kind of actually has a faith undertone to it also because I truly do believe that God looks at us with mercy and compassion and says these ding dongs down here are doing the best they can, you know, with what they've got. And seeing that good in them, seeing their heart, seeing their intention, seeing that they things are unexpected, unexpected things pop up. But their intention was good. They were really trying to do their best. Now I'm not gonna say that about every individual on this planet because I know certain individuals and I know certain times in my life where I was absolutely doing whatever was selfish and self serving. But there are so many more times, at least the people who I have in my life that I'm in relationship with, who I love and I choose to stay in relationship with. It is really beautiful to do like you said, and really try to assume the best for them and that they could do the same for me.

Sandy Kovach [00:16:45]:
Maybe, yeah. And in a way it's nice to take that out to the general public. But other times you want to be on your guard and be cautious. I assume the best. Maybe that's more for relationships. What do you think?

Lanée Blaise [00:16:57]:
Yeah, for relationships, like you're saying romantic, but also like I wanna assume the best that my kids like, I wouldn't have done it that way, baby. But, you know. But I see why you did it that way. And for romantic relationships, too, I think it's good. I gotta admit something. My husband said something so profound the other day that, to me, kind of fits in with this tip that you mentioned. We'd been a little snippy with each other, to say the least. And he said, what if we decided to try to speak to each other and behave with one another as if we were kind of earlier on in our relationship where we're still trying to impress the other person and.

Lanée Blaise [00:17:46]:
And we're still, like, so delighted to be in each other's presence and just live like that for the rest of our time. And I was like, okay, I will do that. I mean, I do love you, and I am delighted to be around you. And I can act like it, you know, and act like if we were kind of earlier on in our relationship, maybe even still dating, I wouldn't say, like, why'd you leave the plate on the counter? I wouldn't say it like that. I probably wouldn't say it at all. I would either just remove it. I'd be like, hey, is it okay if next time you put it in the dishwasher or in the sink? It's the tone. It's again, the posture.

Lanée Blaise [00:18:26]:
Assume the best. That they were really doing their best, and this is how we can end up growing together instead of growing apart. Yeah.

Sandy Kovach [00:18:35]:
Your husband's got some good ideas.

Lanée Blaise [00:18:37]:
That was a plus, 100%. And we've been doing that the past month or so. So I'll let you know how it goes. Like the end of the year.

Sandy Kovach [00:18:46]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Lanée Blaise [00:18:47]:
But so far it's rolling.

Sandy Kovach [00:18:48]:
I love it.

Lanée Blaise [00:18:48]:
It's really been helpful. Yeah.

Sandy Kovach [00:18:51]:
So we've got all these little tips. I think what you do or what tips that you use are obviously going to depend on your relationship. And as far as moving into midlife, I guess we'll wrap it up with this. What would you say, other than us forgetting things?

Lanée Blaise [00:19:10]:
Yes.

Sandy Kovach [00:19:11]:
What would you say maybe has changed the most? Just as far as what good thing have you learned? Or can you apply now? Or would you recommend that others getting into midlife apply to their relationships?

Lanée Blaise [00:19:28]:
I have a juicy one. And it goes across all relationships. It can even be with your. If you have a puppy, it could go with your relationship that you have with, you know, raising that puppy with any relationship. This is my thing. A lot of people, when they reach midlife or beyond, say that they just don't care anymore about what you think. I think there's even this little group on Instagram and it's the We Do Not Care club for women in perimenopause, menopause and postmenopause who just do not care anymore. Right.

Lanée Blaise [00:19:59]:
And. And I'm definitely in that category also, so. And people talk about it a lot. You know, once I get older, I'm not going to care what people think and I'm going to do this. My bucket list is calling me things like. So even though we kind of can have that attitude of like, I don't care about the little stupid things that I used to care about when I was 20 years old or something, all this is to say my actual answer to it is that I have learned that as Lynnae, who is older, she has a duality. She loves boundaries, but she also loves loyalty. So in my relationships with people that I care about, I absolutely want to remain loyal to them.

Lanée Blaise [00:20:42]:
I want to be there for them. I want to be giving to them. But the other, the older midlife part of Linnae is also like. But there is a boundary. There is a part where I don't want it to go so far that it begins to take away from the loyalty and the time and the energy that I need to spend on myself and with God as well. But I'm not selfish, but I'm not selfless. I'm somewhere in the middle. Now.

Lanée Blaise [00:21:14]:
That's my answer to your question. Having boundaries and loyalty at the same time, that make it where I can be good to others and good to myself at the same time. For relationships.

Sandy Kovach [00:21:26]:
Yeah. This is a perfect time to start that. If you haven't. Some of us can be one extreme or the other. We can be extreme people pleasers and then neglect ourself or we can be in the other direction. I think most women I know tend to be in the people pleaser direction. And I love this I don't care club. It reminds me of all the Gen X stuff I see on in my feed that's like loaded with all these snarky Gen X people.

Sandy Kovach [00:21:53]:
But you could still be Gen X or baby boomer or millennial, whatever you are, and still care.

Lanée Blaise [00:21:58]:
So, yeah, and make it where you don't care about the little frivolous things anymore. Like, I don't care if I have to run over to the grocery store and I just have on a raggedy T shirt and some raggedy jeans and some Crocs. That's fine.

Sandy Kovach [00:22:15]:
Crocs and socks.

Lanée Blaise [00:22:17]:
Yeah. Crocs and socks. I do not care. But I just want to make sure people don't go so far with that, that they forget loyalty to the people that they care about and. And boundaries so that they can be loyal to themselves. Yeah. Now, what about you? Do you have one that you have found that Sandy is thriving on in this season of life when it comes to relationships and changes?

Sandy Kovach [00:22:41]:
I just think it is. And we kind of touched on it a little earlier. Just letting things go. Just like stuff that used to just push my buttons. And it's kind of like, okay, well, that's just the way so and so is. And just sort of getting in their skin. Kind of like we were talking about it before. Well, so and so is acting that way because of something they went through or they're having a hard day.

Sandy Kovach [00:23:07]:
Like, my husband came home last night and he just. He had had a really exhausting day. I guess the air conditioner went out at work and it was, you know,

Lanée Blaise [00:23:13]:
in the mid-80s, 80s and 7 degrees yesterday. Yes.

Sandy Kovach [00:23:17]:
Yeah. And so. And there was like all these other things, and I was like, why are you being so low key? You know? And he was just wanting to just relax and have his. We call it when sometimes we eat dinner together, but sometimes we each want to have our atmosphere. And our atmosphere is he'll eat his food and he'll watch Friday or Rambo for the 78th time or Beavis and Butthat or, you know, just some comfort

Lanée Blaise [00:23:40]:
TV he had crafted his ideal atmosphere. Yeah, I'm gonna use that. I like that.

Sandy Kovach [00:23:49]:
Yeah. Sometimes I don't watch television when I eat. I try not to because it's distracting and I'm not supposed to, but when I do, it's usually something like the Chosen or old reruns of the Office or something like that. So that's my atmosphere. Kind of a different thing there.

Lanée Blaise [00:24:07]:
But no, I like that even. Just the fact that you all respect each other's need to go off and capture your own atmosphere every once in a while. And that's a good thing about relationships, too. Just because you love each other, your best friends or all this stuff applies to best friends and stuff, too. We don't need to be in each other's face all the time doing all the things together, you know?

Sandy Kovach [00:24:28]:
No, I mean, I. Quality time was my love language. But I mean, I don't. That in no way implies that we need to be around each other all the time.

Lanée Blaise [00:24:37]:
Yeah.

Sandy Kovach [00:24:37]:
Yeah. That's another thing maybe you learn, too, as you get older and in relationship Let your husband, wife, friend, kids, especially when your kids are grown, do their own thing. Yeah.

Lanée Blaise [00:24:49]:
Have their own atmosphere. That. I'm using that.

Sandy Kovach [00:24:52]:
Who's.

Lanée Blaise [00:24:52]:
Did he make that up or did you make that up? The wording of it. It's so cool.

Sandy Kovach [00:24:56]:
You know what? I don't remember. That's one of our little sayings that we have. Yeah. Don't you find that couples have their own little sayings and.

Lanée Blaise [00:25:04]:
Oh, yes. That's absolutely.

Sandy Kovach [00:25:07]:
So I'm sharing this here in public for the first time.

Lanée Blaise [00:25:11]:
Okay. And I'm going to steal it, too. I'm going to take it home and be like Curlin. I just need to be in my own atmosphere tonight. I just had podcast episode and writing assignment and clean the house and help move my daughter to her apartment. And. And he'll just be like, cool, I'll go down in the basement. Man cave.

Sandy Kovach [00:25:30]:
He'll get it right away, huh?

Lanée Blaise [00:25:32]:
He will. He'll probably be happy.

Sandy Kovach [00:25:34]:
So we hope that everybody got something out of the episode and we wish you a beautiful relationship. No matter what age and stage of life you're in and what kind of relationships that you have, just remember you have to be an active part in them and not always expect the other person to make either the first move or to be the one to reach out.

Lanée Blaise [00:25:59]:
I like that.

Sandy Kovach [00:26:00]:
Yeah.

Lanée Blaise [00:26:00]:
We're all different again. This is all about new seasons, small changes, thinking differently, being differently, all in the hopes that. That it helps you and helps me. You don't have to do any of these things that we suggested. You don't have to do it. If everything is great, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But if there's, you know, if there's some things that you want changes in and you want to get more uplift in your life, then just give it a try and find your way so that you can imagine yourself in the most productive, smooth, happy, loving relationships with yourself and with others humanly possible. Take that and have a lovely day.

Lanée Blaise [00:26:43]:
And just know that we at Imagine Yourself Podcast really appreciate the support. Appreciate when you subscribe or check us out on imagine yourself podcast.com when you interact with us on social media and so that we can have a relationship with you all. Thanks so much.