Imagine Yourself Podcast

Opening the Door to What’s Next in Your Life (w/Coach and Consultant, Heather Wolfson)

May 23, 2021 Imagine Yourself Podcast Season 3 Episode 7
Opening the Door to What’s Next in Your Life (w/Coach and Consultant, Heather Wolfson)
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Imagine Yourself Podcast
Opening the Door to What’s Next in Your Life (w/Coach and Consultant, Heather Wolfson)
May 23, 2021 Season 3 Episode 7
Imagine Yourself Podcast

Do you want to learn the art of being able to pivot in life? This past year has taught us that we can’t take anything for granted, and many of us wonder what’s the next best step to take in order to accomplish our goals, make an impact, and leave a legacy. For those of us who are motivated to do things differently this year, we invite you to listen in to our guest Heather Wolfson, CEO and Lead Strategist of Maven Coaching and Consulting as she gives us a few pointers on how to redefine our roles, refocus our vision, and reimagine the benefits of taking a risk.

There are so many of us out here who know that it’s time to open new doors to new opportunities, but we don’t know where to start. Heather Wolfson shows us how to create a roadmap that will take us down the paths we want to discover in our lives and our careers. We even got to have our own Sandy and Lanee individual mini session to highlight ways to get to the next steps in our personal and professional lives. Whether it the next step in your family, job or stepping into retirement,  let Heather helps you  hone in on your values, your vision and your next  step

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Do you want to learn the art of being able to pivot in life? This past year has taught us that we can’t take anything for granted, and many of us wonder what’s the next best step to take in order to accomplish our goals, make an impact, and leave a legacy. For those of us who are motivated to do things differently this year, we invite you to listen in to our guest Heather Wolfson, CEO and Lead Strategist of Maven Coaching and Consulting as she gives us a few pointers on how to redefine our roles, refocus our vision, and reimagine the benefits of taking a risk.

There are so many of us out here who know that it’s time to open new doors to new opportunities, but we don’t know where to start. Heather Wolfson shows us how to create a roadmap that will take us down the paths we want to discover in our lives and our careers. We even got to have our own Sandy and Lanee individual mini session to highlight ways to get to the next steps in our personal and professional lives. Whether it the next step in your family, job or stepping into retirement,  let Heather helps you  hone in on your values, your vision and your next  step

Give us your feedback and get more inspiration at

Join the conversation  on our  FACEBOOK, TWITTER or INSTAGRAM pages

Follow Heather Wolfson on Instagram

For more info on IMAGINE YOURSELF with Lanée Blaise and Sandy Kovach or to contact us, visit

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Thanks for being part of the Imagine Yourself Family! Follow or subscribe so you don't miss an episode!

Lanée Blaise [00:00:01]:

Welcome to Imagine Yourself. We're your hosts, Lanee and Sandy, and we've got a big question. Has this past year made you reassess where you wanna go in your life, in your career, with your family, with your priorities. Are you wondering what's next for me? How can I open some new doors to some new things and make some new impact? We've invited Heather Wolfson, CEO of Maven Coaching and Consulting, to join us because she is a lead strategist with nearly 20 years of senior level leadership, strategy development, and coaching experience. So she is used to all of these kind of questions, and she has a passion for supporting those who want to make a sustained impact. So we wanna thank you, Heather, for helping us open the doors to the next chapter of our lives. Welcome, Heather Wolfson

Heather Wolfson [00:00:55]:

Thank you both so much for having me. I have been looking forward to this for some time now

Sandy Kovach  [00:01:02]:

And we are so glad you're here. At a time like this, When people are reassessing things and, like Lanee was saying, kind of resorting their priorities, it can be extremely overwhelming now. So my first question would be, how do we deal with that overwhelming feeling and get our thoughts together on it, and then take the action steps?

Heather Wolfson [00:01:20]:

1st, I wanna start with the premise that we are all leaders. I do a lot of work with people who are in business, but I actually look at leadership in all parts of our lives. Leadership within a family unit, leadership within work, leadership within your community. So we have opportunities for impact at a multitude of different levels. And the first question I ask, and I I have this road map that I'm gonna share with all of you now, and then we can kinda dissect it all. 1st of all, you gotta know your why. Why do you wanna do this? What's gonna get you out of bed in the morning? What is your purpose? Yeah. And I think it starts a lot with the 2nd piece, which is curious With yourself and the world around you, the world has changed dramatically in the last year.

Heather Wolfson [00:02:10]:

What impact do you wanna have? That it's about taking some risks. We don't know what we don't know, and we're not gonna know until we dip that toe in the water and explore. And taking those risks, Testing our assumptions. Maybe that opportunity wasn't the right one for me. Or maybe I didn't ask the right question right now, but that's okay. I'm gonna learn from that and Ask a more powerful question the next time. The important thing here also as we think about coming out of period of time that we've been facing As a global society and the impact we might wanna have, or I like to use the word legacy we might wanna have, is showing a bit of discipline, Knowing our boundaries, knowing what we can do, what we have the capacity to do Without taxing ourselves too much, because we still need to show some grace and compassion to ourselves. And I think the most important piece, this last piece that I'll offer, is about presence.

Heather Wolfson [00:03:08]:

How do we wanna show up? What can we do for the other? What can we do for ourselves? So I would say as we're thinking out our conversation today, I would root us in these areas to really understand, like, our why and how we're gonna do that.

Lanée Blaise [00:03:23]:

I love all of that. You mentioned risk, and a lot of people have been forced to take risks this past here of or even in different phases. There have been different things in our lives and in in this country and in our world that have forced us to take risks. But especially now, a lot of people are thinking, I may as well do what I wanna do now. Right? This has really taught us, Don't take it for granted the time that we have. So I like the fact that you say to take risk, but also to give ourselves a little grace in that too. And the why element, that is just really something that we have to be careful that we don't get caught up in what Society is telling us to do that we're really doing what we are purposed and meant and built to do and what we're good at and what we're like. I I love the way you said that what'll help us get out of bed in the morning.

Heather Wolfson [00:04:11]:

You mentioned a lot of things here. 1st, I wanna go back to risk. Risk for some people is hard because we, as human beings, we are programmed to protect ourselves. We are programmed to keep things safe. And the one thing that we have noticed in the last year is that things can change really quickly, And we can be as prepared and measured and calculated, and then the rug gets pulled out from beneath us. Yeah. And we go through a bit of, like, a crisis. We start asking ourselves, who am I? I don't know what you experienced, but I experienced being a business owner and having my routine to all of a sudden Having everybody live under this one roof and never leaving, right?

Lanée Blaise [00:05:01]:

Yes. Yes.

Sandy Kovach  [00:05:04]:

And it was both beautiful And challenging, and we were taking risks every day. What's gonna work? What's gonna work for my business? What's gonna work for the kids' education? What's gonna work for my husband? How do we function in this way? Let's remember that risk taking, sometimes we're thrown into it, and sometimes we have to initiate it. And if we take risk, we learn from it. It's a growth opportunity. It shouldn't be a negative in our lives. It's certainly an opportunity to, what I like to say is, fail forward, fail quickly, learn from it. We are human beings Who need to constantly be learning. So that's what I wanna say about risk.

Heather Wolfson [00:05:45]:

In terms of the road map, the why is the essential question.

Heather Wolfson [00:05:50]:

It is a a loaded question too. First of all, do you have a formula to figure out Your why, if it's not abundantly clear to you. Some people, they're like, yeah. I know what it is. Totally. But other people are like, I'm not sure. There is no perfect

Sandy Kovach  [00:06:07]:

formula, but what I would encourage listeners to do is try on different if communal service It's something that you believe in and you think that might be your why, go do it. Go see how that feels. Does that fill your bucket? Helping those in need. We all can claim that helping those in need is really important, but can you do this every day? Is that something important To you to wake up and go and do and do that kind of active service. If not, is there something else that fills you up? For me, it starts with our core values. Before we even know the why, a 100%, what are your core values? Can you name for me What your 5 core values are? And I'll say some of our values you might be thinking right now is, like, community is a core value of mine. Integrity is a core value. Respect.

Heather Wolfson [00:07:03]:

Then I would challenge you to say, how do those core values manifest in my life? What does that look like? Then we'll start getting closer to our why and then you can test it.

Lanée Blaise [00:07:13]:

Never had anyone ever Ask me to reflect upon my core values maybe when I was a little girl, maybe, you know, like, you know, in a form of that. But Everything you're saying is even kinda making me think that there are lots of things from earlier in our lives that we may have been exposed to that we don't use anymore. The reason I bring this up is my daughter is in college. And, you know, when you're in college, you are Definitely taking time to figure out your why, figure out your path and your purpose in your career. And she has spent so many hours shadowing people in the career path, even the volunteer path that she's interested in. And when you said kinda go do with it, it made me think, at the very least, If you have any network or any family member or someone who can help you where you would be able to Take a look at the day in the life of what you're really interested in doing to see if that's for you or not. I wanna ask you this too from my personal life.

Lanée Blaise [00:08:17]:

I have 3 different big avenues that I'm trying to move forward in. Of course, Imagine Yourself podcast, working with Sandy, we are trying to Help make it the best source of someone to come to for self improvement for finding these next chapters. Right? But, also, I do motivational speaking, which is sort of a form of that as well. And then writing, I write for for TV, and scripts and things like that. And I wanna just make sure, Is there a way for me to kinda push forward on all 3 of these goals without getting myself overwhelmed? And this would apply to other people who are kinda going for multiple things at once It's without getting overwhelmed.

Sandy Kovach  [00:08:55]:

Is it being overwhelmed, or is it about understanding the purpose? And are these actually connected in some way that we just haven't discovered yet? Because you're driving down these pathways. So I'd ask you, what is the motivation behind your script writing and your speaking and the podcast work? Are you trying to send a message? I'm making a big assumption here. But are you trying to share some bigger message Yes. Through these different avenues?

Lanée Blaise [00:09:24]:

Yes. Absolutely. The Overall message and maybe this would be to the core value thing that you said as far as making sure that people have access To viewing things on television, listening to things on podcasts, and seeing people in person live, that Reflects an upward positive moment. There's so many scandalous, ratchet, terrible things out there, And we just try our best to make sure that you get to see the balance in the other side of it also. So that's the purpose. So, yes, I guess that Ties it all together and maybe makes it worthwhile. I think that's the kinda thing that you're getting at for people to really get deep inside themselves and figure out.

Sandy Kovach  [00:10:08]:

I think we all navigate a number of different pathways. Career, we might have 5 different avenues that we decide to go down, and family, and how we give Service. But if you go all the way back to the very beginning and you ask yourself, what am I here to do? Why do I do what I do? Then you start to see all of these beautiful pieces come together. Now you might be asking though, well, what happens if I can't figure out how these pieces come together? Yes. Then then I say, well, then we've gotta do some deeper exploration.

Lanée Blaise [00:10:41]:

And that's where you do you provide Coaching, 1 on 1 coaching, leadership strategies, things like that for people who need that extra lift, that extra deep dive. Right?

Heather Wolfson [00:10:55]:

Absolutely. And my philosophy is actually that y'all have the answers. People that I work with have the answers. It's about how can I help hold the mirror and point out Where there might be some blind spots or opportunity for different thinking? Because the answers are held within us. We just have to unlock For ourselves, and sometimes you just need a little bit of help. How do we open this and explore this a little bit more? To understand ourselves a little bit more. Last year has made people ask themselves, what am I doing?

Sandy Kovach  [00:11:28]:

You're right. Taking a step back and questioning things. So, Heather, have you seen a lot of people Trying to do that reinvention with your coaching business, is it more that than maybe it was before?

Heather Wolfson [00:11:39]:

I think people are asking themselves a lot of questions, And I've seen an increase in people wanting to do the deeper work. I have some assumptions to why. 1, because we've actually had the pause that we need to ask ourselves these bigger questions, myself included. I felt like I was on a hamster wheel. Yeah. And then things stopped. I've never spent so much time sitting on my family's couch or at our dining room table than what I did over the last year. I lost track, but we had more dinners at our table over the course of the pandemic than we had in since I started having children consistently.

Heather Wolfson [00:12:25]:

Homemade meals, all of us together At the table, and the conversations that come from that, and the understandings that come from that. So this pause that have that has happened Has sparked something within people to do further exploration and to ask these bigger questions Of themselves. Seen a number of people who are saying, wait. I think I chose a career path that wasn't for me, Or my kids are now out of the house. I'm an empty nester. What am I gonna do? I still feel young. I have a lot of life ahead of me, and I wanna do something. So, yes, it's because we've had this pause, this kind of global reset.

Sandy Kovach  [00:13:07]:

Yeah. Me too. I, on and off through my adulthood, I've been in radio probably more times than not. And then I've always had my voice over business, and I do a lot of different freelance for different television and radio, stuff like that. But Just as far as on the daily radio, that ended, I think, for the last time for me. I mean, I could be wrong. Something could come up. I never say never.

Sandy Kovach  [00:13:31]:

But working for a corporation, and I worked for a good one, and I worked for a good manager, and I you know, it's just the radio station changed formats. And I'm thinking, do I really wanna go through all that again? Because it's a lot of pressure now being in broadcasting Because you have, you know, all the social media to keep up with, and it's way beyond just going in and doing your radio shift anymore. And it's great, and I enjoy all that too, but it's really taxing. So I guess I'm doing a bit of a reset too now. I can't figure out like, Lanee figured out how all of hers tied together. I really I just use my voice. Right?

Heather Wolfson [00:14:07]:

So a couple of things that you said here. 1st, I wanna say that You exploring this broadcasting piece, and do I wanna go back into it or not? Is was this my last time? As we explore the world. As we continue to learn from our lived experiences, we understand also What our non-negotiables are? What sounded fun and exciting and different and a risk I wanted to take 20 years ago Might not be the case now. I'm in a different phase and stage of my life, and that is so okay. I don't wanna be all over social media. Fine. There'll be other avenues and other pathways to take. I'll share a personal story, and then I'll get to, Sandy, how do we connect to the pieces for you? Early early in my career, I figured, okay, I'm gonna put my head down 10 to 15 years.

Heather Wolfson [00:15:00]:

I'm gonna learn everything, and I'm gonna cruise. I'm gonna know what I need to know. I'm gonna do what I need to do because my perception when I was a young post college grad Living in Los Angeles, the world was my oyster. I would learn it, and then, you know, these executives that I had met along the way, I would be that, and it would just be easy peasy. And the reality is is that we all go through these Growth moments, these high moments, these low moments, and that we never get to a point of just status quo. We constantly are challenging ourselves and trying to figure out, like, how far can we push ourselves? Or in this part of my life, I need to slow down because it's too much. What do I need to do? And it's all about stages and phases of our life. And that naive 21 year old out of College has now realized that life is a growing journey.

Heather Wolfson [00:15:57]:

What we cared about then 20 years ago is different than what we care about now. Right? So, Sandy, when we think about using your voice, what do you use your voice for?

Sandy Kovach  [00:16:07]:

Well, the podcast, for 1, to be positive. Obviously, I kinda share that with Lanee. I and I do that on social media a lot too. And I actually do like being on Social media is just it's a different level when you're talking about you're doing it for a living. So social media and the podcast, it's the whole positivity. Positive pontificator is one of my little hashtags. But for my voice, I mean, I do voice overs for commercials, for phone systems, for tutorials, for whoever. I do get to work with some pretty cool people.

Sandy Kovach  [00:16:38]:

Detroit Public Television, the, PBS station here. I do a lot for them. Got the, Smooth Jazz Network On the radio and EsScapes TV, which plays relaxing video, and the whole theme there, I guess, we're talking about is kinda relaxing. But that's not All I do is to help people relax. I'm using my voice to help people sell things too, right, which is okay.

Heather Wolfson [00:17:00]:

So I think there's a number of different pieces here. Sandy, think about the audience that hears your voice. When they hear your voice, what do you want them to say?

Sandy Kovach  [00:17:10]:

That they can relate. Whatever I'm saying sounds good. On the radio, it was always about making an emotional connection. I want them to feel like I'm their friend. I might not even know them, but Yeah. So I guess that, maybe.

Heather Wolfson [00:17:24]:

It seems to me that you use your voice, and you understand what your purpose is in using your voice. It's about messages. It's about making people feel something. Yeah. You wanna relate to people. Right? Mhmm. So you have different pathways, be it selling something, using it for this podcast, On social media, you're, again, using your voice for some sort of an impact. You understand that end Connection.

Heather Wolfson [00:17:54]:

So it might seem a little foggy sometimes when we're living it and doing it day to day, wrote. When we step back and say, think about the thousands of people that hear your voice every day. You might be that one comforting voice that people need to hear In their darkest moment. And then your voice comes on the radio, and it's like, Sandy, you're speaking to me. So pull that back and you say, okay. So what are your values, Sandy? So we kinda reverse engineered this, but what are your values?

Sandy Kovach  [00:18:26]:

Well, one of them is definitely, I want people to feel included. I want people to be lifted up. I don't want them to feel alone. I guess, so there you are. There you have it.

Lanée Blaise [00:18:36]:

This is beautiful. This this is what we're talking about, Heather. To be fair, we talked about social media. We found you on Instagram And just fell in love with your advice and the ways that you presented this kind of self introspection inspection that you're giving. I feel like this is an example of what a coaching session could look like for someone who's trying to kinda reemphasize what it is that they are doing and what they like about what they're doing, what they don't like about what they're doing. Like you said, those non-negotiables, I think that there's a word that you used in one of your posts, and there was even a quote too, which we have to tell everybody. Go ahead right now.

Lanée Blaise [00:19:17]:

Please follow Heather at Heather_wolfson, w o l f s o n. Because there's one that you mentioned about vision, And it was a quote by Rosebeth Moskantor. Said a vision is not just a picture of what could be. It is an appeal to our better selves and a call to become something more. And then in the caption, you mentioned that A vision is a road map that holds our values, our dreams, our hopes, our purpose for the future, and it's a directional that enables us to see ourselves in the future. Can our vision really be that all encompassing and important and valuable? Is it that big of a deal to really take time to focus on our vision for ourselves?

Heather Wolfson [00:20:07]:

All businesses, Maybe that's too grand. Most businesses have a vision and mission statement. And really strong businesses, businesses who know what they do and How they do it? Live and breathe by their vision and mission. Now does the mission change from time to time? Does the vision change from time to time because The world changes. The needs change. Of course. But you have to have some north star.

Heather Wolfson [00:20:34]:

So my question is, Why shouldn't individuals have their own mission and vision statement?

Lanée Blaise [00:20:40]:

And actually take time to reflect upon it. Right? To actually take a minute to feel it and dig into it

Heather Wolfson [00:20:45]:

And another part of my business, which is consulting work for organizations, we talk often about We build a road map. We build a strategic plan for 3 to 5 years. We assess it along the way. We adapt it 3 to 5 years later For the next 3 to 5 years, we're constantly learning and growing and changing. That's what we need to do for ourselves, and I think coaching is one avenue, one way To do that, which is to say, here's a goal that I have. Here's a vision that I have for myself.

Heather Wolfson [00:21:15]:

How do I get there? Let's build a plan. A coach can hold you accountable. A friend can hold you accountable. You take a risk. You assess. Did that work? Did that feel right? Did I actually do what I said I was going to do? What held me back? We test again, and we keep going, and we learn. So it might not be the, you know, 20 page document that we type out and put on a shelves and pull out every 6 months with people, but this is life. And, again, we should Be living towards that greater purpose.

Heather Wolfson [00:21:48]:

I talk a lot about it as being our legacy. What is the legacy we wanna be we wanna leave behind? What do we wanna be known for? And, therefore, we need to have that vision, and we need to know how we're gonna get there.

Heather Wolfson [00:21:59]:

And you have a special offer going on right now too to kinda help people with that.

Heather Wolfson [00:22:03]:

I have a step into leadership session that I am offering to folks, to listeners. It's a 60 minute session where we can do a quick and deep dive. You come with either an idea of your next step or something you wanna explore, and we kinda do a crash course Together over 60 minutes similar to what I even did with Sandy. So that's offer number 1, which please, you can, sign up Through my Instagram profile. I have a link there. I also know that as the world begins to reopen In the coming months, there are a lot of people who are questioning what McKinsey has coined the next normal is gonna look like. So over the next several weeks, I'm going to be going live with some of my colleagues to have some of these bigger conversations. I'll be offering a free webinar that will be called here I am, reset and refocus for summer, and then later this summer, Right before Labor Day when we believe most people will be returning to work or to some sense of the next normal, I'll be offering a 3 part webinar series for folks to do some group coaching and thinking about our intention for the future.

Sandy Kovach  [00:23:18]:

And you have info on your website too or just your Instagram?

Heather Wolfson [00:23:21]:

Just Instagram right now. Most of the free offerings will be taking place in there, but Please follow me on Instagram because I will be making announcements there over the coming weeks. Then it'll be up on the website.

Sandy Kovach  [00:23:35]:

And we will link to both your Instagram and your website at imagine yourself And then it'll be in the episode notes as well if you just wanna click over. And as we are preparing for this podcast, Heather, and thinking about reinvention and all of that, I took a look at some people who have reinvented after 50. And I was not aware that Julia Childs, famous chef from back in the day, she wrote her 1st cookbook At 50 years old and Roy Kroc, Ray Kroc, I'm sorry, bought McDonald's when he was in his early fifties, and he is credited for making Mickey D's is what we or how we know it today. So a lot of folks doing things in later life. These are just only a few of the ones that I found.

Heather Wolfson [00:24:18]:

Yes. We can have an impact. Okay. We might not be Julia Child writing a cookbook and being on TV, but impact on our community. We can can have an impact in our family. We can shift careers and explore something new. We We can go back to school. Get a new degree.

Heather Wolfson [00:24:37]:

That thing should hold us back. I think the biggest factor in holding us back is our own inner critic. Yeah. We should be somewhere. And what I hear a lot when I'm working with folks is, I should do this, I should do that, and my favorite saying is just stop shoulding on yourself

Lanée Blaise [00:24:50]:

Yes. Yes. Because another thing too that again, back to that part about Taking a look at what it is that you're interested in doing, whether you shadow someone who does it or Speak with someone who does it. Even with yours, you have a webinar coming up. People can watch webinars and get more information and more knowledge, or they can get a vocation for something new that adds on to what they're currently doing. There's just a world of opportunity that we can do, And we can take it in big steps or small steps.

Lanée Blaise [00:25:28]:

It doesn't matter. It kinda depends on what your goals are. And if you're relatively happy where you are, Then you can still add to your knowledge base, but if you're unhappy where you are, it just seems like now is a great time to make changes. Something else that came to mind, Sandy, when you're saying as far as the people who kinda had these next chapters when they were 50 and up. Everybody's been talking about the ability to pivot lately. And there's this kinda cool documentary called The Last Blockbuster.

Lanée Blaise [00:26:03]:

It's on Netflix of all things, but it talks about how in 2004, There were about 9,000 Blockbuster stores and, like, over 60,000 employees. But the world was beginning to make a shift. And it seemed like Blockbuster didn't quite get that memo. And they could have bought Netflix back in 2000 for $50,000,000. And they bought at the idea that they didn't think they needed it. And sure enough, Now Netflix is making this documentary about, you know, kind of the rise and fall of Blockbuster. And still some of us too may be listening to this podcast and thinking, I can kinda see where the end of my own personal movie is heading.

Lanée Blaise [00:26:52]:

And I want to be proactive and make sure that I don't end up like blockbuster, you know, that I end up making a change now, making a pivot now that will impact my life, my future, my career, my family, and get some new skills. Get some new opportunities. Get some new networks. And with the pandemic, LinkedIn and social media and All these different ways to get access to people that you didn't have before and you don't necessarily have to live in the same state Has been amazing and profound and helpful, and I encourage people to really take advantage of that in a good way.

Heather Wolfson [00:27:34]:

Lanee, we have information at our fingertips. Yeah. I say this. Le googel.

Lanée Blaise [00:27:44]:

As my grandmother said, "goggle"

Heather Wolfson [00:27:45]:

Yes. You type in a function. Now you have to be savvy enough To know what's right, like, what's real and what might not be real, but there's so much information. There's so much learning that we can do. There's opportunities literally at our fingertips to make connections with people we otherwise wouldn't feel comfortable to or have says too. Zoom has transformed the way education happens, the way we do business. I jokingly say I feel like I was an early adopter of Zoom because I used to work with a global team many years ago.

Heather Wolfson [00:28:19]:

So Zoom was the way we did our business. And then the pandemic hits, and we're teaching our kids over Zoom. We're building businesses over Zoom, and so so much more. So I'm all about just being informed. Learning and being informed, watching the trends. The notion of a pivot is Huge right now because we've all pivoted literally on a dime. Yes. So just being aware and thinking critically Also, about what does this now mean? And being open.

Lanée Blaise [00:28:53]:

I don't like change, personally. Me, being Lanee, don't like change.

Lanée Blaise [00:28:57]:

I like things to just go the same way, you know, have that familiarity. But I have also learned to be willing to be open to change. Sometimes it's good change, sometimes it's not so good, but the good thing about change is it can change again. So Doesn't have to stay bad or negative. You don't have to stay in the rut. The rut can be temporary.

Heather Wolfson [00:29:21]:

Just To remember that we like to keep ourselves safe. That's how we were hardwired. It's in our brain. Sometimes too much change can really throw us for a loop, but we can take little bites, Little steps, like I said, dipping that toe in the water, proving to ourselves, oh, this isn't so bad. Yeah. The same way that who would have known that we would have been walking around with smartphones and doing our banking through our smartphones? And I was a late adopter on the direct deposit through the camera situation until I was banking with a bank who wasn't local, and I was like, how am I gonna deposit my checks?

Sandy Kovach  [00:30:02]:

Well, the pandemic made me do it because I didn't wanna go touch the ATM. I was a late adopter and depositing with my smartphone too, but it's so easy. The app makes it so easy. It's like, why wasn't I doing it before?

Heather Wolfson [00:30:13]:

Well, because we are afraid.

Lanée Blaise [00:30:15]:

Yeah. We're afraid.

Sandy Kovach  [00:30:16]:

But how are they really going to get my money?

Heather Wolfson [00:30:18]:

Yes. Is this really going to work? That check needs to make its way to the bank into the teller's hands or into the ATM machine. Right? So We see change happening, and I think part of it is that the change is happening much, much more quickly than it ever has. So we're adapting. It's an exercise in flexibility and adaptability right now.

Lanée Blaise [00:30:40]:

And reimagining. That's another popular word lately. Reimagining. There's so much good stuff. I just want everybody to please really consider if this is something that you need in your life where you need the 1 on 1 coaching leadership strategies with Heather Wolfson. She's, again, at heather_wolfson. That's for Instagram. And then her website Is Maven Coaching and Consulting .com we always have this section called our takeaway time where we really focus on what we want our listeners to take away from this whole experience, this whole episode.

Lanée Blaise [00:31:17]:

Of course, they can take away you know, make sure that you want to be a Netflix and not a Blockbuster. You know, keep your ears and eyes and mind open to do things. But I wanna hear, what would you give as your takeaway on this episode, Heather?

Heather Wolfson [00:31:32]:

Okay. I'm gonna say a few things. 1 is identify your values. What are your core values? How do they show up in the world around you? Number 2, Try to identify your why from there. What is your purpose? If that's murky, work with someone, either a coach, A friend, a family member, explore. Test the water. Get super curious around that. And then I would say, 3, be willing to take a little bit of risk.

Heather Wolfson [00:32:00]:

Be flexible. Be adaptable. But take a little risk and learn from those risks. And then that would all lead to, I would say the biggest takeaway, which is create a vision for yourself.

Lanée Blaise [00:32:13]:

Yeah. That's powerful right there.

Heather Wolfson [00:32:15]:

Very much. And you can take baby steps I mean, you don't have to quit your day job to do these little explorations and information seeking, so don't worry about that part. Just be open to it. Right?

Heather Wolfson [00:32:26]:

Be open. Be expansive. Ask questions. Ask questions of people around you. Ask questions of the Internet. Use it. Understand what's going on. Just get curious, and then you can make informed decisions from there.

Lanée Blaise [00:32:43]:

Yeah. Because in the end, it's all gonna lead to what you mentioned before, leaving your legacy, what you wanna have left behind as your impact, as your contribution to your family, your community, the next generation, everything. I love it. We thank you, Heather. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for giving us some wisdom and some new ways of looking at things too because that's part of it also.

Heather Wolfson [00:33:06]:

Well, thank you to the 2 of you for using your voices and having an impact on listeners, bringing positivity into the world, and it is clear that you both have deep values and a purpose. So thanks for bringing me on today.

Sandy Kovach  [00:33:21]:

Thank you. Thanks for all your help, and I know you're gonna help a lot of our listeners too.

Lanée Blaise [00:33:25]:

We may not be bringing sexy back, but we're bringing positivity back. A little sexy too. Doesn't hurt. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let's just all take a moment to actually visualize and realize and sit and just imagine yourself Going new places, doing new things, opening new doors to new opportunities, and having a new level of impact and vision and purpose unfolding for you in all the areas of your life. Thank you for joining us, at Imagine Yourself.

Sandy Kovach  [00:33:59]:

So glad you took the time to listen. Hope that was helpful for you. Hope you will follow us on Apple, Google, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcast, And take a moment if you can to subscribe to our blog. You can also learn a little bit more about some of the other things that we do that you may have heard about in the episode. If you Are in need of a motivational speaker or wanna find out about Lanee's TV writing or some of the voiceovers, radio and audio production that I've done. Maybe there's something I could do to help you or your company. That information is on there as well. And, of course, we would love to have more information on you as part of our Imagine Yourself podcast family.

Sandy Kovach  [00:34:40]:

So love for you to hook up with us on any of our social media platforms Or at imagine yourself podcast .com